FAQ

(Content updated December 2018)

How do I get in an England Team?

For Home Internationals (v Ireland, Scotland & Wales – in Loch-style, Rivers or Bank disciplines) you first need to reach the appropriate National through Qualifiers organised throughout the country.

Doing well enough in the National Finals gains you a place in the England team for the following year, subject to formal approval by the ATTEFF International Committee (TEFFIC). 

To be eligible for selection to World and European Championship teams you must first achieve certain Selection Criteria based on your performance in Bank, Rivers and Loch-style heats in the Elite Performance Programme (EPP). This ranking then forms the basis of the World and European teams for the following year. The relevant team managers will select the teams from the list of those that do well in the EPP.

Which Qualifier should I fish?

There is no geographical requirement about which Qualifiers you fish, for example, even though you live in the South East you are still free to fish in Midlands Qualifiers. 

You can also fish Qualifiers in different disciplines in different geographical areas, for example, doing a Southern Rivers Qualifier and a Midlands Loch-style Qualifier. 

Most competitors find it best to do their Qualifier at a venue they fish regularly and therefore know well.

Who decides where Nationals are held?

The venue for Loch-style Nationals currently rotates between Grafham, Bewl, Rutland and Chew, the four approved venues. (Not necessarily in that order.) Other venues may be added to this list once approved by ATTEFF. 

Venues for the River and Bank Nationals are chosen by ATTEFF from a number of proposed venues. For organisational reasons the Rivers National venue usually remains the same for two consecutive years.  

What are the Competition Rules?

There are separate rules for Loch-Style, Rivers and Bank Qualifiers and Nationals. See this web site for details.

For World and European events, FIPS-Mouche rules apply. This information can be found elsewhere on this site.

How do I get a TEFF Badge?

Badges, Zingers, Ties and other TEFF merchandise are available from Paul Page. All profits go to TEFF funds.

Why did TEFF join The Angling Trust?

The Angling Trust (AT) is the new, single organisation representing all game, coarse and sea angling in England. It is the governing body for all angling, seeking government funding to develop the sport at all levels, and protecting your rights as a fisherman. It is our belief the AT will be the route through which sports grants will be available to fund teams and develop the sport throughout the country. More information

For every Qualifier I fish ATTEFF charges an entry fee on top of normal fishing fees. What happens to this?

This money goes towards supporting all ATTEFF teams at our International events. Such income is ring-fenced to ensure it is retained by ATTEFF and not passed on to the Angling Trust’s general fund.

Why do I have to be a member of the Angling Trust to fish a National?

Given that ATTEFF’s own charges are used solely for running its own events (see above), the Angling Trust still requires your support in order to represent all fishermen at every level. For that reason, all National competitors must have valid membership of the Angling Trust. You will find information on AT membership here.

Who runs the World and European Championships?

World and European Championships are run by FIPS-Mouche, or the Fédération Internationale de Peche Sportive Mouche (International Sport Flyfishing Federation). This is the fly fishing arm of CIPS, the World regulating body for competitive fishing in all disciplines. You will find more information at the CIPS website

Frequently Asked Questions – Loch-Style Qualifier Entrants 2022

Angling Trust statement on the role of volunteers

Angling Trust volunteers play a vital and integral role in angling participation. Without their dedication and commitment, the vast majority of events simply could not happen. We believe volunteers’ contributions should be acknowledged and appreciated by all anglers.

Unfortunately, there have been a number of recent instances where these unpaid Angling Trust officials have been subjected to abuse. The Angling Trust considers this abuse to be wholly unacceptable and as such will not be tolerated.

Complaints of mistreatment from our volunteers will be taken very seriously.  Individuals who are considered to be out of order will be asked to explain their actions and may risk being excluded from future competitions

Thank you.

Angling Trust TEFF Loch-Style Qualifiers Frequently Asked Questions Entrants – 2022 v1.0

GENERAL

2018 saw the introduction of a ‘repechage’ with anglers qualifying from the regional heats. This new system seems to have won favour with the majority of entrants in that anglers now know if they have qualified at a heat or if they have qualified to fish in the repechage. 

FAQs

How are the number of places at each heat decided?

We have reviewed the actual attendance at all heats over the last few years and adjusted the maximum number of entries to reflect those numbers. In making this amendment, anglers can be certain that they have qualified for the final at the end of any given heat. The number progressing is based on the number that actually fish the heat, not the number of entries.

Why is there a repechage?

The repechage has been introduced as a result of implementing the formula of 1 in 4 qualifying for the final. The repechage allows us to allocate places for the final from heats that failed to sell out without the need for complex calculations. Previously anglers finishing a heat on the ‘cusp’ may have found, after the final heat, that they had not / had qualified. This was unacceptable and meant those affected had to make last minute arrangements to book holidays, b&b etc for the final. With the introduction of a ‘repechage’ those anglers that just miss out on a qualifying place will be invited to the fish-off or ‘repechage’.

Why do 1 in 4 qualify for the final?

The formula ensures anglers can be certain of their place in the final after each heat and allows us to be definitive in organising a 100 person final (or less depending on venue).

How many places for the final will be available from the repechage?

Based on a full sell out at each of the qualifiers there will be a minimum of  10 places  available for the final. In reality this number is likely to increase substantially because if heats do not sell out then those places would be added to the repechage. For example in 2018 there were 16 places from a take up of 39 anglers.

How will I know if I have qualified?

For 2019 onwards AT TEFF has decided that 1 in 4 of those that fish will automatically progress to the final. You will be told if you have qualified after the weigh-in. A further 1 in 4 will be invited to fish in a ‘repechage’ as detailed above.

How does the ‘repechage’ work and how are the calculations done?

Each heat will have a maximum number of rods allocated to it. In total nationally there will be 360 bookable places. If all places are taken then 90 rods will be assured of their place and definitely qualify for the national final. This will enable a successful angler time to book holidays / B&B / practice boats etc.

For example – heat 1 has 40 places available so 1 in 4 = 10 will go through to the final.

If 39 angler’s fish heat 1 then 9 will go through to the final and the remaining place (one) will be added to the ‘repêchage’. If 33-35 anglers fish then 8 will go through to final and 2 to the ‘repêchage’, and so on

The same formula will apply to allocation of places to the repêchage’. Heat 1 has 40 places, 1 – 10 will go forward to the final and 11 – 20 will be invited to the ‘repêchage’.

Qualifying places from the ‘repêchage’ will be the number required to make the places at the final equal 100. All finals in future will be a maximum of 100 rods, some may be less.

This means that the qualifying ratio from the repechage will more than likely not be 1 in 4 but more likely, as in 2018, 1 in 2.5 approx.

What happens if I enter more than once and finish in a qualifying place more than once? Does my place drop to the next person in the list as in previous years?

The rules now stipulate that you must only enter one heat at a time. This is to cut down on administration for the Q&NC and Angling Trust staff and averts the necessity to record and bring in reserves. if you fail to qualify at the first attempt you can enter for a second time. A maximum of 3 entries is allowed.

Can I enter again even though I have an automatic qualification to the final so that I can practice?

No. See above. The entry opening and closing dates have been set for 2019 such that an unsuccessful angler can then easily enter another heat elsewhere.

If I fish a qualifier and gain a repechage invite but then enter a second heat and gain an automatic qualification do I need to fish the repechage?

No, If you gain an automatic qualification place after gaining a repechage invite your repechage invite is automatically withdrawn. Your Invite is not passed to the next Angler from the relevant qualifier.

Where will the ‘repechage’ take place and how many will fish it?

The ‘repêchage’ will be a single day event and fished (in 2022) at Draycote Water. A maximum of 90 rods will be invited and a minimum of 10 places in the final will be available. It is highly unlikely 90 rods will fish the ‘repêchage’ and it is highly likely that the number of places available will increase because heats have to sell out for this number to remain at 10. The exact number of anglers in the ‘repêchage’ and places in the final (from the ‘repechage’) will be known immediately after the last qualifier. 

How will I know if I have been invited to the ‘repechage’?

Those that have qualified for the ‘repêchage’ will be contacted by email and requested to enter on-line via the Angling Trust website. (You will be required to enter your email address as originally used in your heat entry and your membership number. This will verify your entitlement to fish.)

‘Repêchage’ places will only be offered once, if an angler qualifies for the ‘repêchage’ on more than one occasion, the first qualification will count and subsequent ‘repêchage’ places will be lost and not replaced by another angler from a given heat. For this reason you must ensure your membership is current at the time of entry.

If I have already entered 3 heats and not qualified then I have been invited to the ‘repechage’ will I be allowed to fish?

Yes.

So how many rods will there be in the national final and the ‘repechage’?

The number at the final will be 100 in 2022, it could be less in other years. The number invited to the ‘repechage’ will be a maximum of 90 – see above – but will more than likely be less. The number progressing from the repechage will be determined as per the formula above.

Can I enter more than one Qualifier?

Yes, you can enter up to THREE qualifiers as in previous years but only one at a time. Each entry will cost £27.50 plus fishing fees. If you are invited to the ‘repechage’ the entry fee will be £27.50 plus fishing costs. 

Do I have to pay the same fee for all my qualifiers?

Yes. Only one entry fee is due for the 2 day final. Fees for 2022 will be £27.50 per entry.

What happens to my entry fees if the event is cancelled?

A full refund will be made if ATTEFF cancels a heat due to lack of entries.

Do I have to be an Angling Trust Member to fish a qualifier?

Yes. A check is made such that only paid-up members are able to enter. We would recommend you taking out Angling Trust membership to get your own Personal Liability Insurance anyway. Should you qualify for the AT TEFF Team England you must also be an Angling Trust member in the year that you fish for that team.

Who decides on the venues that are used for the qualifiers and National Final and how many places will there be?

The location for the Final is decided by the AT TEFF Executive Committee (as detailed on AT TEFF website) and is based on major reservoirs capable of hosting a large number of anglers. 

The venue I wish to fish in is full, what can I do?

You can only elect to fish another venue as no reserves will be taken for 2022.

I notice there are several closing dates for entries, what is the purpose of that?

This is to encourage anglers to give serious thought to the entries they intend to make. This in turn will cut down on the administrative work that the AT and the Q&NC has to undertake. The dates and venues are set such that an angler can enter an early heat and if unsuccessful then to enter a following heat. Heats have also been arranged to enable anglers to enter in their general geographical area. 

I am unhappy about the way the qualifiers are organised, how can I make my comments known and to whom?

The qualifiers are run by the AT TEFF so any comments should be passed to the AT TEFF Secretary (Contact details on the AT-TEFF website) for their consideration. Any complaint made to volunteers or fishery staff will not be considered – all complaints must be in writing or by email to the ATTEFF Secretary. 

You have asked me to pay my entry fee and fishing fee at the same time – why? What if I am a season ticket holder?

This is to save admin time and makes the whole payment process easier. The local organiser will NOT take any entry or fishing fees. These must all be paid when you enter on-line via the Angling Trust website payment system. The Q&NC will arrange for the fishing fees to be paid to the fishery. If you are a season ticket holder at one of the venues you will still be required to pay the full entry and fishing fee. It is your responsibility to re-claim your fishing fee from the fishery.

Why did you set a minimum entry of 20 anglers at a heat? 

We would prefer in future and to cut down on administration to have slightly less venues with larger participant numbers. To achieve this it was decided to have a minimum entry requirement at any one venue of 20 anglers.  However in the extended region, for example the south east (Bewl), north west and north east (Carsington), reduced minimum entry will be allowed so as not to disaffect  those regional anglers.

What happens to the entry fee, is it ring fenced for the Loch Style Teams within AT?

The entry income is ring fenced and used to support all our AT TEFF teams. Every penny of revenue raised is reinvested in AT TEFF.

Are the rules across all qualifiers going to be standardised? Will strict International Rules be applied?

The qualifiers will be fished to the rules published on the AT TEFF web site but there may be a few local changes dictated by the Fishery. Entrants should familiarise themselves with the fishery rules as well as local rules. This includes for out of bounds areas, sailing areas and other restrictions such as distances from bank anglers etc. You are strongly advised to keep well clear of these areas to be certain you do not fall foul of this rule. Changes / amendments to the rules will apply for 2022 – please ensure you read them again fully.

Are the catch rules across all qualifiers going to be standardised? 

AT TEFF is keen to standardise the catch rules such that matches are fished to some form of catch and release. However we are aware that some competitors prefer a set kill limit followed by a time bonus. It has been decided, for 2022, that the catch rules will be left to

the local organiser to determine. From 2023 all matches will be fished to a form of kill ‘x’ amount and catch and release then possibly bonuses. See general rules for full details and teff website.

 When fishing to catch and release, what are the rules on flies?

ATTEFF appreciates that anglers have many thousands of flies dressed on barbed hooks. There will be a move to use totally barbless flies in the future. In the interim, any match involving catch and release will mean flies have to be either barbless or debarbed (unless the fishery allows otherwise – you will be notified at the pre match briefing). The use of certain flies when fishing to catch and release (boobies, doubles etc) may also be barred – again you will be informed at the briefing. Where we know in advance details will be posted on the teff website.

How will my catch be recorded?

The event organiser will issue every angler (or boat) with a pre printed match card. It is upto the anglers to complete this card with the details requested. The card must be signed by both anglers in the boat. Failure to present a signed card at the weigh-in will mean disqualification. Cards will be checked thoughout the match by officials and any incomplete card will mean both anglers are disqualified. You must complete catch details on the card as every fish is caught. You must provide your own pens / dry wipe marker pen (for use on laminated score cards).

Will it be possible to pay fishing fees on the day of the qualifier?

Simple answer – NO. All fees are payable at the time of entry.

What happens if there are odd numbers on the day of the qualifier?

The Local Organiser should have somebody on standby for this.

Why is there such an emphasis on Insurance and Risk Assessment?

The health and wellbeing of anglers is of paramount importance.

Will these new rules and multiple entries ensure that AT TEFF will get a stronger England Loch Style team?

Only time will tell. At the moment the International results show that there is a strong team but as each International is a different team based on the previous year’s final it will take a few years to see if this has any impact. 

Does the introduction of a ‘repechage’ simply mean more money for the AT TEFF coffers?  

The introduction of a ‘repechage’ is about improving the system and not about making money. The ‘repechage’ allows us to manage the qualification process more effectively and gives anglers clarity on their position throughout the competition. We appreciate the ‘repechage’ is an extra match and additional expense to the angler however there is no requirement for anglers to enter the event, if anglers choose not to then that is their decision. It represents a final chance for anglers to gain a place in the national final.

How are any reported disputes / complaints dealt with?

At every qualifier there will be at least 3 ATTEFF nominated officials present. One is normally the event organiser but the others may be competing anglers or not. In the event of any complaints raised by competitors against other competitors (this must be done within the first 20 minutes of the match ending) a sub-committee of the nominated persons will be formed to adjudicate on the complaints raised. Observations and input from fishery staff will also be considered if available. The outcome will be announced before the results are made known unless input is required from other sources whereupon a decision may be delayed for several days. Entrants are advised not to leave the fishery after an event until the results have been announced and the findings from any reported disputes made known. Appeals can be made to the AT TEFF via the AT TEFF Secretary – see rules. Complaints made after the first 20 minutes of the match ending must be reported in writing to the AT TEFF Secretary along with supporting evidence. This may include the name of witnesses or photographic evidence.

If I fall foul of the rules what will happen?

Matters of discipline are high on the AT TEFF agenda and revised guidance will be issued soon. However, you may find you are disqualified on the day of the heat and for more serious breaches, you may be disqualified from entering any further heats in the current and / or future years.